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I've been trying to run VNC server on Vista beta 2 without success. I can control an XP PC using VNC viewer from Vista but not the other way round. Any suggestions?

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:16:01 -0700, Babylon_n_ting wrote:

I've been trying to run VNC server on Vista beta 2 without success. I can control an XP PC using VNC viewer from Vista but not the other way round. Any suggestions?

I had VNC running XP > Vista on a network by turning off UAC and the Windows Firewall and also disabling Windows Defender which does not like VNC much and still seemingly caused problems even though I told it to allow VNC.
I used Ultra VNC 1.0.1
http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
It worked fine but then for some reason slowed to a crawl, I had been fiddling with Vista a lot so I am not sure exactly what the problem was. I have re-installed Vista for the nth time this week but not put VNC back in yet so I cannot help you further at the moment.
Jonah

We have tested VNC version 4.2.5 on Vista #5384. Client runs fine, but server fails to start. Only VNC error message is license key: digest mismatch. All Vista security is turned off including the firewall. Interestingly, the Vista firewall lists VNC as an exception; that is, the check option is port use is permitted even if the firewall is active. Vista user is Administrator.
Robbie

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

We have tested VNC version 4.2.5 on Vista #5384. Client runs fine, but server fails to start. Only VNC error message is license key: digest mismatch. All Vista security is turned off including the firewall. Interestingly, the Vista firewall lists VNC as an exception; that is, the check option is port use is permitted even if the firewall is active. Vista user is Administrator.
Robbie

I'm trying to run VNC Server 4 on Vista build 5384.
When I try to run Configure VNC Server, I get a (Vista?) error message saying “You do not have sufficient access rights to run the VNC Configuration applet” - this does not make sense as I'm signed on as an administrator.
I don't like the idea of switching off Windows Firewall, Defender and UAC as this seems a little drastic.
Any other suggestions appreciated.

Babylon_n_ting wrote:

"Robert Robinson" wrote:
We have tested VNC version 4.2.5 on Vista #5384. Client runs fine, but server fails to start. Only VNC error message is license key: digest mismatch. All Vista security is turned off including the firewall. Interestingly, the Vista firewall lists VNC as an exception; that is, the check option is port use is permitted even if the firewall is active. Vista user is Administrator.
Robbie
I'm trying to run VNC Server 4 on Vista build 5384.
When I try to run Configure VNC Server, I get a (Vista?) error message saying “You do not have sufficient access rights to run the VNC Configuration applet” - this does not make sense as I'm signed on as an administrator.
I don't like the idea of switching off Windows Firewall, Defender and UAC as this seems a little drastic.
Any other suggestions appreciated. Are you logged on as the "real Administrator" not just a user with

Administrator privileges ? I haven't had any problems with access rights, but VNC Server still doesn't work. We use a hardware firewall, Firefox, and Thunderbird. There is no Firefox support for ActiveX and we disable Java and images. We also don't open attachments except under exceptional circumstances. This provides a fairly good level of Internet security. Robbie

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:12:14 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:

Babylon_n_ting wrote:
"Robert Robinson" wrote:
We have tested VNC version 4.2.5 on Vista #5384. Client runs fine, but server fails to start. Only VNC error message is license key: digest mismatch. All Vista security is turned off including the firewall. Interestingly, the Vista firewall lists VNC as an exception; that is, the check option is port use is permitted even if the firewall is active. Vista user is Administrator.
Robbie
Any other suggestions appreciated. Are you logged on as the "real Administrator" not just a user with Administrator privileges ? I haven't had any problems with access rights, but VNC Server still doesn't work. We use a hardware firewall, Firefox, and Thunderbird. There is no Firefox support for ActiveX and we disable Java and images. We also don't open attachments except under exceptional circumstances. This provides a fairly good level of Internet security. Robbie

Robbie what exactly is happening with your server, just re-installed it on the new public beta version after a clean re-install and it won't run properly now. I had it running fine on a previous beta installation.
Running as admin, all security off, UAC disabled and the security centre dlls disabled / service off, defender disabled.Can connect via XP or Linux clients but ridiculously slow.
Jonah

Hi Jonah,
The only VNC server start-up message is License key: Digest Mismatch. There are no other error messages, but the server never starts. A check of the Internet shows that no one has VNC Server running successfully on Vista beta 2.
Robbie

"Robert Robinson" wrote:

Babylon_n_ting wrote:
"Robert Robinson" wrote:
We have tested VNC version 4.2.5 on Vista #5384. Client runs fine, but server fails to start. Only VNC error message is license key: digest mismatch. All Vista security is turned off including the firewall. Interestingly, the Vista firewall lists VNC as an exception; that is, the check option is port use is permitted even if the firewall is active. Vista user is Administrator.
Robbie
I'm trying to run VNC Server 4 on Vista build 5384.
When I try to run Configure VNC Server, I get a (Vista?) error message saying “You do not have sufficient access rights to run the VNC Configuration applet” - this does not make sense as I'm signed on as an administrator.
I don't like the idea of switching off Windows Firewall, Defender and UAC as this seems a little drastic.
Any other suggestions appreciated. Are you logged on as the "real Administrator" not just a user with Administrator privileges ? I haven't had any problems with access rights, but VNC Server still doesn't work. We use a hardware firewall, Firefox, and Thunderbird. There is no Firefox support for ActiveX and we disable Java and images. We also don't open attachments except under exceptional circumstances. This provides a fairly good level of Internet security. Robbie

I don't know what you mean by "real Administrator". I only have one user account on Vista, which is the one created when I first installed Vista, and the account is obviously has administrator privelages.

Babylon_n_ting wrote:

"Robert Robinson" wrote:
Babylon_n_ting wrote: "Robert Robinson" wrote:
We have tested VNC version 4.2.5 on Vista #5384. Client runs fine, but server fails to start. Only VNC error message is license key: digest mismatch. All Vista security is turned off including the firewall. Interestingly, the Vista firewall lists VNC as an exception; that is, the check option is port use is permitted even if the firewall is active. Vista user is Administrator.
Robbie
I'm trying to run VNC Server 4 on Vista build 5384.
When I try to run Configure VNC Server, I get a (Vista?) error message saying “You do not have sufficient access rights to run the VNC Configuration applet” - this does not make sense as I'm signed on as an administrator.
I don't like the idea of switching off Windows Firewall, Defender and UAC as this seems a little drastic.
Any other suggestions appreciated. Are you logged on as the "real Administrator" not just a user with Administrator privileges ? I haven't had any problems with access rights, but VNC Server still doesn't work. We use a hardware firewall, Firefox, and Thunderbird. There is no Firefox support for ActiveX and we disable Java and images. We also don't open attachments except under exceptional circumstances. This provides a fairly good level of Internet security. Robbie
I don't know what you mean by "real Administrator". I only have one user account on Vista, which is the one created when I first installed Vista, and the account is obviously has administrator privelages. This is discussed in detail in another thread. Unlike UNIX/Linux, a user

with Administrator privileges is not the same as the Administrator. For example, changing a directory from read only to read/write is possible as a user/administrator, but under many circumstances the directory automatically reverts to read only. Administrator can write into a read only directory, but user/administrator cannot. There is more detail involved and this is only one example. Microsoft designed Vista so that you cannot normally logon as Administrator. There is a registry change that makes this logon possible. The steps, as described by Colin in this forum, are as follows:
Quote 1) Click the Start orb and click on Run (or press the Windows key + R) 2) Type in regedit and press OK. If it asks you to open this via UAP, then click Allow. 3) In the Registry Editor, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon. 4) In the right hand pane, right click the mouse and select New then Key. A new folder should appear in the left hand pane. 5) Name this new key SpecialAccounts and press Enter. 6) Right click the mouse on the new SpecialAccounts key in the left hand pane, select New then Key again to make a "sub-key". 7) Name this new key UserList and then press Enter. In this new UserList key, right click in the right hand pane and select New then DWORD (32-bit) and name this Administrator then press Enter. 8) Double click on the new DWORD you just made, and set the value to 1 then press OK. EndQuote
Robbie

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 13:13:32 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:

Hi Jonah,
The only VNC server start-up message is License key: Digest Mismatch. There are no other error messages, but the server never starts. A check of the Internet shows that no one has VNC Server running successfully on Vista beta 2.
Robbie

Hey Robbie, I had it going fine on the version before this public beta - 5384.4, honest I did, it worked fine then failed but I got no error messages on install and I can't remember exactly why it failed I thought it was something I did while poking about elsewhere. I was not too bothered as I wanted to reload different hardware and re-install anyway so I never bothered investigating.
I have just got the public beta installed as an upgrade on a test machine cos I have been deliberately upgrading / restoring various PCs pre-installed Dells, HP etc and custom builds to see what happens (wasn't pretty mostly execpt for the Dell surprisingly) I will try VNC again tomorrow and take careful notes of exactly what I do, assuming I can get it to run again. I am using the original test box hardware now which is well specced but its an XP upgrade not a clean install this time so this may take a couple of days if I have to do a clean install as before, but I will get back to you.
I did not realise VNC wasn't supposed to work, I did have to do some serious tweaking though as I recall, it was a few weeks ago now. If I had known it was an issue I would have done a few screen shots on the Vista Server and XP / Linux Clients.
Jonah

Hi Jonah,
I will look forward to hearing from you. I did try working with the ports and being careful that the Microsoft firewall and other security features were disabled. I also tried Ultra VNC and Radmin neither of which worked on #5384.
Robbie

Surprise, surprise. Real VNC 4.2.5.0 works on Vista #5384 if you go to Administrative Tools, Services, VNC Server and start the server from this Window. It will not start properly by executing WinVNC4.
Robbie

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:47:35 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:

Hi Jonah,
I will look forward to hearing from you. I did try working with the ports and being careful that the Microsoft firewall and other security features were disabled. I also tried Ultra VNC and Radmin neither of which worked on #5384.
Robbie

Hi Robbie
Got it working on the Public Beta.
Ultra VNC 1.0.1 from http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
Via Netgear D834G Router on local only (ie VNC is not set up as a server via port forwarding)
Vista is base install with only Trend AV installed, UAC disabled, Firewall Disabled. Ensure local file sharing works correctly XP <> Vista R/W
Set TCP/IP on Vista to fixed Local IP, don't allow automatic.
DL VNC 1.0.1 and install in an Admin account via "RunA$" Administrator. When first run Defender will scream blue murder so go through the options and set to "always Allow", only other set up to do is to replace login password with one of your choice eveything else is left as default.
Screenshot of Server setup here. http://www.gsyminimoto.org/misc/Vist%20Server%20Properties.jpg
Then use the corresponding Ultra VNC client in XP to connect to the vista machine via the fixed address / port 5900
Screenshot http://www.gsyminimoto.org/misc/XP%20running%20VNC%20client.jpg
Works fine at the moment, I will take note of when it breaks. BTW its best to switch Vista to classic theme for speed although it does work with a Vista theme its slow but that could be my network connections which are a little convoluted.
Jonah

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:47:35 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:

Hi Jonah,
I will look forward to hearing from you. I did try working with the ports and being careful that the Microsoft firewall and other security features were disabled. I also tried Ultra VNC and Radmin neither of which worked on #5384.
Robbie

Addition to previous post I forgot to mention when putting VNC server on the Vista box install the server only (top option box) uncheck everything else.
Jonah

jonah wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:47:35 -0400, Robert Robinson robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi Jonah,
I will look forward to hearing from you. I did try working with the ports and being careful that the Microsoft firewall and other security features were disabled. I also tried Ultra VNC and Radmin neither of which worked on #5384.
Robbie
Hi Robbie
Got it working on the Public Beta.
Ultra VNC 1.0.1 from http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
Via Netgear D834G Router on local only (ie VNC is not set up as a server via port forwarding)
Vista is base install with only Trend AV installed, UAC disabled, Firewall Disabled. Ensure local file sharing works correctly XP Vista R/W
Set TCP/IP on Vista to fixed Local IP, don't allow automatic.
DL VNC 1.0.1 and install in an Admin account via "RunA$" Administrator. When first run Defender will scream blue murder so go through the options and set to "always Allow", only other set up to do is to replace login password with one of your choice eveything else is left as default.
Screenshot of Server setup here. http://www.gsyminimoto.org/misc/Vist%20Server%20Properties.jpg
Then use the corresponding Ultra VNC client in XP to connect to the vista machine via the fixed address / port 5900
Screenshot http://www.gsyminimoto.org/misc/XP%20running%20VNC%20client.jpg
Works fine at the moment, I will take note of when it breaks. BTW its best to switch Vista to classic theme for speed although it does work with a Vista theme its slow but that could be my network connections which are a little convoluted.
Jonah Hi Jonah,

Thank you very much for the follow-up about Ultra VNC. I will give it a try. Did you see that "Real VNC" is now working ? One step I didn't mention is that it is probably necessary to execute WinVNC4 before turning the VNC Server on via "Services". As mentioned, WinVNC4 will fail, but the step may be necessary to establish the entry in "Services"
Robbie

On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:17:30 -0400, Robert Robinson wrote:

jonah wrote: On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:47:35 -0400, Robert Robinson robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Hi Jonah,
Jonah Hi Jonah,
Thank you very much for the follow-up about Ultra VNC. I will give it a try. Did you see that "Real VNC" is now working ? One step I didn't mention is that it is probably necessary to execute WinVNC4 before turning the VNC Server on via "Services". As mentioned, WinVNC4 will fail, but the step may be necessary to establish the entry in "Services"
Robbie

Yeah Robbie but I deliberatley left services alone, the goal being just to get a working VNC setup on a local network initially. I will fiddle with it later now I got it working. Thanks for the Real VNC tip I will have a go at that next.
Might try and do something complicated like encrypted file transfers tonight.
NOT
LOL
Jonah

I am using VNC Personal Edtion. I had to add an "exception" to the Vista Firewall Settings. I called it VNC Port Exception and added port 5900 to the the list. UAC is alos off, not sure if it had to be, but it was already off.
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I've been trying to run VNC server on Vista beta 2 without success. I can control an XP PC using VNC viewer from Vista but not the other way round. Any suggestions?